Showing posts with label ISTAT. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ISTAT. Show all posts

5/13/2014

Another hint for the A330neo launch

I just found the Earnings Call Transcript from ALC for the first quarter, There is an interesting part there (fair quote from Seeking Alpha):

John D. Godyn - Morgan Stanley, Research Division
That's very helpful. And Steve, you mentioned the A330 NEO. I was wondering if you had any sort of initial thoughts that you'd care to share?
Steven F. Udvar-Hazy - Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Yes, we've had a lot of going back and forth with Airbus, with the engine manufacturers, with a number of airlines that have sort of raised their hand as potential launch or co-launch customers for the airplane. Basically, I think what Airbus is evaluating is a new generation of A330-200s and 300s with engines that are of more current technology and are being currently devised or in operation, derivatives of engines already in operation that would offer a double-digit increase in efficiency and fuel savings. And I think Airbus is looking at that very carefully as a possible alternative to the A350-800.

What do we learn from that:
  1. The A330neo will be launched at the Farnborough Airshow!
  2. ALC will be one of the launch customers.
  3. There will (probably) be a A330-200neo, not just a A330-300neo.
What do we not know (yet)? Who will be the engine provider?

Anybody wants to bet against that?`

Not that I think that everything that SUH says and wants is becoming reality: SUH was one of the vocal opponents of the A320neo before it was getting launched. I remember him argueing against the A320neo at the european ISTAT meeting in October 2010, telling the audience that the benefits in fuelburn and noise were not much more than a PR gag. Reality told us otherwise meanwhile and ALC is a large customer for the A320neo as well as the Boeing counterpart, the B737MAX.

Now, in the case of the A330neo, he does not see the fuelburn (and noise as well) benefit as a PR benefit only. Life is everlasting learning...

3/21/2012

Doubts about MAX

Last month I wrote a short entry about Ryanair's Michael O'Leary and what his thoughts are about the B737MAX. Well,  when he talks about aircraft, it barely has to do with physics and what the aircraft can or can not do - it always has more to do with the price for his next deal...
But when the "Godfather of Aircraft Leasing", Steven Udvar-Hazy

3/20/2012

Definitive LEAP1-B fan diameter!(?)

Yesterday at the ISTAT Americas conference Mike Bair from Boeing revealed that the LEAP-1B fan diameter for the B737MAX now stands at 68.4". When Boeing and CFM for the first time officially announced a fan diameter for the LEAP1-B in November 2011 (Press Release), it was 68", 7" more than the fan diameter of the CFM56-7BE of the current B737NG.
In the meantime there were news in different but reliable media (LeehamNews, aspire aviation) that the diameter went up to 68 3/4" or 68.5". So now it is 68.4" - what does that tell us?
  1. Size matters - although Boeing denies that. Well, of course there is a sweet spot for every aircraft/engine combination, as Scott Hamilton writes in a recent column, so you can't go everywhere with fan size. But apparently CFM still tries to maximize the fan diameter of the LEAP-1B so it just fits under the wing and to get the best possible fuel burn for the aircraft. That means that 68" is not the sweet spot, but that is is somewhere higher.
  2. It means that the definition of the engine is probably still not finished yet. If the fan size changes, this potentially changes everything else - at least if you want to maximize efficiency of the whole engine. In turn that means that there is still a lot work for Boeing to define to pylon and the pylon/wing interface.
So stay tuned for the next MAX fan diameter...

9/22/2011

ISTAT Europe 2011

For the second time I had the pleasure to join the european ISTAT (International Society for Transport Aircraft Trading) meeting, this time taking place in Barcelona, a wonderful city! Here are some thoughts about the conference...

A320neo
Last year the conference was "overshadowed"

10/13/2010

ISTAT takeaways

The NEO question

The 17th european ISTAT conference is over – more than 550 people joined the event. For me it was my first ISTAT conference and a very special experience, as I am en engineer and at this conference I learned to see the aviation industry from a bankers, lessors and an appraisers perspective. And this perspective is very different – money (sometimes sadly) rules the world, as we all know.
And when I as an engineer and environmentally conscious guy of course would like to see a new engine on the current narrowbody families, the folks who live from buying, selling and financing aircraft are not really enthusiastic about it.
They fear that their current assets loose their value once the –NEO versions (or how ever they would be called) come to market.
But is that really the case, I wonder? There are 4,349 A320 family aircraft in operation as of September 30, according to the Airbus O&D spreadsheet, 3,411 B737NG were delivered by September 2010 (and just a few of them are out of service). There will be approximately 4,000 more A320/B737’s delivered by late 2015, when a reengined model could enter service.
These reengined aircraft will not hit the second-hand market for, say, another 10 years, at least not in greater numbers. So why on earth should there be a big hit on residual values for the not-NEO narrowbody aircraft? I don’t get it – but a I am just an engineer…;-)

One of the biggest opponent at the conference was the self-described “godfather of aircraft leasing” S. Udvar-Hazy, who described his role in the aviation industry as to ensure that the aircraft manufacturers don’t become like car manufacturers and bring a new model to market every four years or so. He also played down the benefits of the reengining: 15% fuel burn improvement would relate to 5% DOC improvements, given that fuel costs relate to about one third of direct operating costs. In my mind fuel costs will account for more than one third in the foreseeable future with oil prices just again climbing north of $80/barrel and the IEA raising the oil demand forecast.
But SUH further downplays the benefits when referring to John Leahy, who would like to raise list prices for the NEO’s by $7-8m, what it half of the benefit over 20 years operating a NEO aircraft. So, SUH says, the benefit is just 2-3%, which could be further eroded by higher costs for training maintenance personnel and lost commonality.

The environmental benefit he calls as PR benefit for the outside world. Tell that your neighbors living next to an airport: I am sure that an aircraft that is roughly 5dB (per measuring point) less noisy is more than just PR for them – it would be a benefit in quality of life! And as I explained earlier it can also be worth a few percentage points in COC, at least in Europe.

But then I find another inconsistency in SUH’s argumentation: if the new engine would be worth only 2% in DOC, why should the older aircraft loose their value. I can understand that they would loose value, if the newer aircraft is way better, but not when the difference is so small.

Lufthansa’s fleet chief Nico Buchholz on Monday called the improvements for the –NEO sufficient. On Tuesday he kind of backed away a little bit, saying that he would like to see a new aircraft, but would consider taking the second best option if the best one is not available.

CSeries
SUH was asked what he thinks about the CSeries, as at the Farnborough Airshow he ordered almost every aircraft but the CSeries. His message was clear (at least to me): the money he got from investors has to work, i.e. to make money. So he cannot place an order for an aircraft he gets four or five years later and only then can earn money through leasing rates. So we can expect an order for the CSeries once the aircraft is in production and available delivery slots are not too far away.

10/09/2010

Heading for the ISTAT conference

I am heading for the 17th European ISTAT conference in Munich, Germany, on Monday and Tuesday (11-12 October). This event will be very interesting I guess, as the main topic will be the potential impact of potential -NEO variants of the A320 and the B737 of residual values for today's not-NEO aircraft and engines. Steve Udvar-Hazy will hold the opening adress, all aircraft OEM's, engine OEM's, lessors, appraisers and many more  will be there to discuss the state of the industry.
Look back at the end of the week for my take on the event...