The turkish carrier Pegasus is about to announce their choice for the next 100 narrowbodies, ATWonline reports. The airline has already decided on which aircraft to take, ATW says and wants to announce it shortly. Obviously A320neo and the B737MAX are in the competition. As Pegasus has a fleet of 40 B737-800NG and two B737-400 right now I would rule out the CS300 as it would be a smaller aircraft than the ones currently in use.
One sentence in the article might give us a hint who will be the winner:
"The carrier expects to start receiving the new aircraft in around three years."
1. In 2015 only the A320neo is available, the B737MAX is coming to the market two years later. So one might think that the A320neo might be the aircraft of choice.
2. But as I laid out earlier, Boeing has about 1,000 B737NG positions to sell until the B737MAX will be the only B737 version produce by Boeing, which could happen in late 2019, about two years after EIS of the B737MAX.
So my guess is that Boeing made an irresistible offer to Pegasus. As Boeing is the provider of the current fleet, they have to loose more than Airbus anyway here.
But let's don't underestimate John Leahy - maybe he surprises us (well, at least me) one more time. But my bet is on Boeing here!
10/07/2012
10/04/2012
Boeing B737MAX orders gaining steam
This week Boeing firmed two orders for the B737MAX. On October 1st GOL signed for 75 B737MAX-8 and two days later GECAS for another 75 copies of the -8. Another unidentified customer signed for 22 B737MAX. Boeing has now 821 firm orders for the MAX.
What is maybe more important is that Boeing still has no order for the -7. Also the A319neo has only very few orders so far. There are two possible explanations for this:
1. Airlines are shifting to larger aircraft.
2. Other aircraft, especially the Bombardier CS300 is the better aircraft.
I discussed this also in an earlier post. Against the first assumption speaks that there are markets that do not support a 180 seater and a 150 or 130 seater is more economical.
But there are not really too much orders for the CSeries - yet. My guess is that once first flight happened (and went well) we will see some more orders, maybe also on a larger scale.
Another sidenote of the GECAS order is that there are "only" 10 orders for the B737-800NG included with 15 more options instead of the 25 firm orders originally announced. I also discussed this earlier: Boeing has to sell something like 500 more NG's to close the gap until the MAX enters service. And as a ramp up to full production will probably take another two years, Boeing needs to sell another 500 or so if they do not want to have an overall slowdown in B737 deliveries.
What is maybe more important is that Boeing still has no order for the -7. Also the A319neo has only very few orders so far. There are two possible explanations for this:
1. Airlines are shifting to larger aircraft.
2. Other aircraft, especially the Bombardier CS300 is the better aircraft.
I discussed this also in an earlier post. Against the first assumption speaks that there are markets that do not support a 180 seater and a 150 or 130 seater is more economical.
But there are not really too much orders for the CSeries - yet. My guess is that once first flight happened (and went well) we will see some more orders, maybe also on a larger scale.
Another sidenote of the GECAS order is that there are "only" 10 orders for the B737-800NG included with 15 more options instead of the 25 firm orders originally announced. I also discussed this earlier: Boeing has to sell something like 500 more NG's to close the gap until the MAX enters service. And as a ramp up to full production will probably take another two years, Boeing needs to sell another 500 or so if they do not want to have an overall slowdown in B737 deliveries.
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